"The second is the entirely faith-based hope that some kind of sustainable technological innovation is going to save the day before our behavior drives us off the cliff of extinction."

Count me in on that one, except for the part where faith is involved. And the part 'is going to'.

I just think that fully-constructed automated environments - something people can feel & taste & touch - is the only way we get everyone on board without Profit or Paycheck. Any 10-year plan to get around the upcoming Climate Disaster will involve 9 years of debating with the same tired arguments we're already bombarded with.

If it happens, it probably won't be in the United States. And it certainly isn't going to be Elon.